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	<title>Comments on: The only reason I just can&#8217;t use Solaris, RedHat, etc</title>
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	<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/</link>
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		<title>By: Brian Pontarelli</title>
		<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/#comment-5179</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Pontarelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately neither or these does a distribution upgrade, unless they have changed something. The use case in Fedora terms would be a command that would upgrade me from Fedora Core 8 to Fedora Core 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately neither or these does a distribution upgrade, unless they have changed something. The use case in Fedora terms would be a command that would upgrade me from Fedora Core 8 to Fedora Core 9.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/#comment-5128</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>redhat and fedora have always been pretty easy.

up2date -u

or

yum install </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redhat and fedora have always been pretty easy.</p>
<p>up2date -u</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>yum install</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Pontarelli</title>
		<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/#comment-5124</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Pontarelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
While youâ€™re at it:

sudo apt-get install sun-java6-*
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$ dpkg -l &#124; grep java
ii  java-common                                0.26ubuntu1                               Base of all Java packages
ii  libhsqldb-java                             1.8.0.8-1ubuntu1                          Java SQL database engine
ii  libjaxp1.3-java                            1.3.03-5                                  Java XML parser and transformer APIs (DOM, S
ii  libjline-java                              0.9.5-3ubuntu2                            Java library for handling console input
ii  libservlet2.3-java                         4.0-8ubuntu3                              Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 Java classes and doc
ii  libservlet2.4-java                         5.0.30-6ubuntu1                           Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java library.
ii  libxalan2-java                             2.7.0-4                                   XSL Transformations (XSLT) processor in Java
ii  libxerces2-java                            2.8.1-2                                   Validating XML parser for Java with DOM leve
ii  openoffice.org-java-common                 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1                        OpenOffice.org office suite Java support arc
ii  sun-java5-bin                              1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (
ii  sun-java5-demo                             1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 demos
ii  sun-java5-jdk                              1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-jre                              1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (
ii  sun-java5-source                           1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 sourc
ii  sun-java6-bin                              6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (ar
ii  sun-java6-jdk                              6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6
ii  sun-java6-jre                              6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (ar
ii  sun-java6-plugin                           6-03-0ubuntu2                             The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6
ii  sun-java6-source                           6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6 source 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
While youâ€™re at it:</p>
<p>sudo apt-get install sun-java6-*
</p></blockquote>
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$ dpkg -l | grep java
ii  java-common                                0.26ubuntu1                               Base of all Java packages
ii  libhsqldb-java                             1.8.0.8-1ubuntu1                          Java SQL database engine
ii  libjaxp1.3-java                            1.3.03-5                                  Java XML parser and transformer APIs (DOM, S
ii  libjline-java                              0.9.5-3ubuntu2                            Java library for handling console input
ii  libservlet2.3-java                         4.0-8ubuntu3                              Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 Java classes and doc
ii  libservlet2.4-java                         5.0.30-6ubuntu1                           Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java library.
ii  libxalan2-java                             2.7.0-4                                   XSL Transformations (XSLT) processor in Java
ii  libxerces2-java                            2.8.1-2                                   Validating XML parser for Java with DOM leve
ii  openoffice.org-java-common                 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1                        OpenOffice.org office suite Java support arc
ii  sun-java5-bin                              1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (
ii  sun-java5-demo                             1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 demos
ii  sun-java5-jdk                              1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-jre                              1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (
ii  sun-java5-source                           1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1                         Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0 sourc
ii  sun-java6-bin                              6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (ar
ii  sun-java6-jdk                              6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6
ii  sun-java6-jre                              6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (ar
ii  sun-java6-plugin                           6-03-0ubuntu2                             The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6
ii  sun-java6-source                           6-03-0ubuntu2                             Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6 source
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		<title>By: Brian Pontarelli</title>
		<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/#comment-5123</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Pontarelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we do a lot of CentOS deploys and I just don&#039;t like the feel of Redhat anymore. Like Solaris, it just hasn&#039;t become at all user friendly. Plus, I love the way that Ubuntu is actually making things better. They rewrote init because it had issues. This is the type of company I can get behind.

I&#039;m hoping that someone will eventually rewrite the entire shell, readline, tty, term, termcap thing. I mean can we break away from ANSI please? :) It&#039;s a new millennium and we have a few million colors on every monitor and loads of keys and shortcuts that would be useful. Let&#039;s use them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we do a lot of CentOS deploys and I just don&#8217;t like the feel of Redhat anymore. Like Solaris, it just hasn&#8217;t become at all user friendly. Plus, I love the way that Ubuntu is actually making things better. They rewrote init because it had issues. This is the type of company I can get behind.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that someone will eventually rewrite the entire shell, readline, tty, term, termcap thing. I mean can we break away from ANSI please? :) It&#8217;s a new millennium and we have a few million colors on every monitor and loads of keys and shortcuts that would be useful. Let&#8217;s use them!</p>
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		<title>By: Demian</title>
		<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/#comment-5122</link>
		<dc:creator>Demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While you&#039;re at it:

sudo apt-get install sun-java6-*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you&#8217;re at it:</p>
<p>sudo apt-get install sun-java6-*</p>
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		<title>By: fak3r</title>
		<link>http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/11/01/the-only-reason-i-just-cant-use-solaris-redhat-etc/#comment-5120</link>
		<dc:creator>fak3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, here - after starting with Linux about 10 years ago (Red Hat 5) I&#039;ve run through Mandrake, Slackware (for a long time), Debian, Gentoo (another long time) to settle on FreeBSD for my server for many years.  Still, it&#039;s been Ubuntu on the desktop for about as long, since it &#039;just works&#039;.  I had to setup another box to run a malware honeypot, so I used Debian Etch.  Using Debian on a server again was a breath of fresh air, I&#039;ve now switched my old FreeBSD server out with Debian, and I couldn&#039;t be happier.  I still love FreeBSD, and think admin&#039;ing it is very logical, but Debain is it for me for now.

At work I&#039;m forced to deal with RHEL4...uggg...I pine for the day when I can spec an HP server to run Debian on, HP doesn&#039;t distribute boxes with Deb preinstalled, but they do support Deb on HP.

Nice site, I&#039;m reading your Ajax login page; thanks for the code samples.

fak3r.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here &#8211; after starting with Linux about 10 years ago (Red Hat 5) I&#8217;ve run through Mandrake, Slackware (for a long time), Debian, Gentoo (another long time) to settle on FreeBSD for my server for many years.  Still, it&#8217;s been Ubuntu on the desktop for about as long, since it &#8216;just works&#8217;.  I had to setup another box to run a malware honeypot, so I used Debian Etch.  Using Debian on a server again was a breath of fresh air, I&#8217;ve now switched my old FreeBSD server out with Debian, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier.  I still love FreeBSD, and think admin&#8217;ing it is very logical, but Debain is it for me for now.</p>
<p>At work I&#8217;m forced to deal with RHEL4&#8230;uggg&#8230;I pine for the day when I can spec an HP server to run Debian on, HP doesn&#8217;t distribute boxes with Deb preinstalled, but they do support Deb on HP.</p>
<p>Nice site, I&#8217;m reading your Ajax login page; thanks for the code samples.</p>
<p>fak3r.</p>
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